Love these snowboarding pants. I ordered them for my 5 year old who wears I size 5T pants. I expected them to be a bit large, but they are still totally workable. The waist is adjustable so we tightened it up. It's still a little loose, but the pants still stay up. They are really long, but I just rolled the cuffs and they stayed put all day long. They would be way too long if he work tennis shoes, but over snowboard boots it was just fine. The pants are warm and durable. They appeared to be wet after a day of my son rolling in the snow, but he said he was warm and dry and when I removed them, his under layers were dry and just fine. So I think it was just some moisture on the surface. I could probably fix that by adding a little waterproofing spray, no problem. I love that they come with the connect system for the jacket, although right now we are using a different jacket as my son needed a smaller jacket than 686 carries. We will have at least 2 seasons in these pants if not 3-4. Well worth the costs.